One more rapture safely behind us, I decided on this memorable (yet another) first day after the (yet another) end of the world to declare a war…
While I may not be a world government or any similar legally fictitious entity, I am damned well not okay with terrorism and I want world peace (if only because I want to travel to every country on this planet, and how on earth am I meant to get somewhere where an open armed conflict is full on? 🙂 ). And while we’re at it, I am equally not okay with anything that goes against progressions in the realm of the human rights and science – I consider any action taken against those developments to be a crime against humanity as a whole. And me. And every human individual on our planet. So war against that, too – throw it in the bag 🙂 (If you don’t get the specific reference, run a quick search on YouTube. Hint: it’s a music video).
Fair warning: this entry is likely to offend you at one point or another, so please make sure to read the disclaimer in the end (will be in bold). If you can’t stomach the overall entry – it’s probably because it is about you, which should then make you really think hard about the direction your life is taking. And please don’t bother leaving comments calling for truce – not gonna happen :).
This all had begun maybe a much longer while ago that I can even recall, but my “fury” (the reasons for ” ” marks can be found here and here) had been spiced up on a few specific occasions that eventually lead to this war declaration.
One of such occasions was hearing from adherents to a certain set of dated ideas that people who live a virtuous life but refuse to accept those dated ideas will be, unfortunately, eternally damned for suffering the tortures of hell, while people who commit atrocities of unbelievable scale, like Hitler (sorry, I know he’s probably THE most used poster-child example of anything that has ever been wrong with humanity… but hold that thought as I will come back to him later) can deserve an eternity of bliss regardless of their acts: upon repenting their sins and accepting to believe the given set of dated ideas… Back when it happened, it set me off on a huge research spree to refresh my rather not-too-recent-enough factual information on the subject matter at hand, which has been, for the most part, gathered here.
A few hate-comments (from people I never knew/interacted with before… Who obviously, and ironically, felt they had the right to come to MY FB wall with their hatred… I’m happy they have decided to un-friend me rather swiftly, as I obviously disturbed them by common sense just enough to threaten their little cognitive self-deluding comfort) on my posts dealing with support for the rights of homosexuals and the rhetoric of the atheists have kept the “fire” burning in the meantime. Some comments from my actual friends urging me to “stop this anti-whatever campaign and chill off already” also took place, and then finally came Jeff (no last name, but you know who you are 🙂 ), who got into a “discussion” with me first in comments to a post and then via messages (as he, of course, was prompt to un-friend me too 🙂 ). To shortly summarize Jeff’s scientific method (and Jeff is a self-proclaimed respectful and open-minded person, mind you – the exact open-minded type I am also declaring a war on, by the way), he informed me at one point that the USA is NOT a secular country (which it is, and always has been ever since its inception), then provided the “reason” for this “fact” to be pretty much the exact darn definition of a ‘secular state‘, albeit paraphrased, then consequently denied to read any links provided to him that both explained secularism and the emergence of the USA as a clearly secular nation from its inception… at which point he pretty much forever lost any credibility and benefit of the doubt anyone sane would have given him in the beginning. However, the extensive exchange of mail lead me to a few more good sources and a very important realization: there needs to be a war, after all.
I could go on at length about why there needs to be an open war on bullshit, but why make my life harder? Other people have done part of the job for me. Therefore, I will first copy here a few excerpts and summaries of the communique with Jeff (which you can either read for your own amusement or skip :). And by the way: 1) I informed him that I use ALL CAPS only as a means of emphasis, not “screaming”, as it’s simply faster than bold/italics, especially in FB messages and 2) I also often forgo capitalization in fast-typing messages like this – pure laziness, as well as a form of tribute to e. e. cummings (note: PROPER name capitalization here – that’s how he signed his name 😉 )), and then invite you to do your homework for once and explore a couple of very important sources I will cite at the end. If you decide to skip mail exchange, then I will indicate with a “START HERE for Jeff vs me” the beginning of the section you can fully skip and something else in bold to indicate where you should resume reading again :).
I first invited Jeff to see this video
(by the way, a brilliant channel. And fills me with hope that there exist in fact young, well-educated people with enough courage out there. Whatever you may think of the looks/manner, the message is priceless), not for the purpose of proving anything (and I explained this extensively to him. I also warned him of the form of delivery and asked to disregard it and rather focus on the message), but just as a summary (when I get tired of re-writing what I already had to write too often, I find some source online that does my job for me 🙂 ) of what are my concerns as someone who doesn’t buy into some old mythology to begin with. I also asked Jeff to share the video with those of his friends who hold some beliefs, so that they actually could understand ‘the other side’ and maybe make their rhetoric more effective upon accounting for those concerns.
Interestingly enough, upon other things he wrote:
“You have no idea who or what I am. Your small capacity for understanding wont allow it.
Because in your pomposity and drive to be better than everyone else, You missed the point with your overblown intellectualism.”
Here I need to mention that in my first message to him I also linked the “Crushed by the intellect” blog entry, which he, of course, failed to read… (lest he would never maintain those accusations). Since he never bothered to serve as an example of someone who is interested in figuring out who the other person is, neither bothered I to investigate what kind of a person he was, beyond our writing. I’m sure he’s actually a nice pal, but it’d seriously help him to, well, investigate prior to opinion-forming… And hence it all began…
“START HERE for Jeff vs me”
In that same message, he continued:
“What actually led me to unfriend you is your disgusting “holier than thou” (LOL) attitude that your atheistic beliefs were somehow better than anyone who follows a faith. Your over the top attempt to beat me up with your intellect failed. I left because it was boring and shallow. The sheer amount of nonsense made my head swim. The mere fact that an atheist needs to mock someone’s belief or belittle them is sheer stupidity. and a whole site dedicated to that is a shrine to stupidity that puts them beneath the holy rollers.
You said” I do have a problem when anyone’s private sense of moral entitlement starts to be forced down other people’s throats, down onto little children and into the state laws – THAT I have a huge problem with.”
I don’t ask anyone to follow any message. BUT i find people who attack religion to be just as offensive as those who attack with it. I AGREE WITH YOU and firmly believe that no religion should be forced on anyone. I ALSO BELIEVE in a common respect for others beliefs even if that belief is a lack of belief. I am sincerely offended most by people who wish to force their world view on people who have differing views.
I can respect your atheism but it is apparent you have no respect for someone with different views. Even in your attempt to offer a video you presume an arrogance to teach others the right way to do something, which of course is your way or a way you agree with because that can be the only correct course of action. You’re arrogant enough to judge me and make assumptions about who I am that are so far wrong its laughable and really makes you sound stupid. I actually am an open minded person.”
Which pretty much summarizes the entire build up: have respect for the belief…
Well guess what? I fucking won’t.
Jeff, by the way, true to his ‘methodology’ didn’t watch the video in full, and after he finally did, could only have a mind open enough to derive this much:
“fucking sad was that video…i watched it…half of it…it was so much repeated regurgitated one-sided diatribe i could have puked. I can easily pick apart every useless factoid that poor actress spouted. The fact that you consider yourself an intellectual and you put stock in it proves me right again.
explain my reasons for what? for having been insulted by your asking me to watch a video that in your self ascribed superiority would set me (and those that think like me) right? you don’t even see what you’re saying and why its so offensive do you? you have all the traits of an elitist snob with out the substance […] I at least started to watch the video, but it was more like the inability to not look at a train wreck which is what it was. A train wreck of one-sided selfish-motivated liberal bullshit that presented only the facts relevant to making a one-sided argument instead of speaking truth.”
Kind of failing to realize that, well, to begin with this isn’t an actress… Also, I don’t quite understand where the “untrue” part of the video is, as it basically simply lists actual laws and those in motion that have been, to public knowledge, lobbied through into the legislation of the SECULAR nation of the USA by the various Christian denominations’ lobbyists… Which was the only ‘point’ of including that video – demonstration of effect of organized lobbying power on legislation. Incidentally, it happens that the ONLY two organized lobbying power in support of the moronic laws that go counter human rights happen to be the religious groups and huge MNCs…
My reply to Jeff included:
“if they sat at homes and thought “well, our faith teaches us it’s bad to abort babies… but, well, it’s our faith. laws of this country are secular, and are made to serve every one of my fellow human brothers and sisters. out of respect and love for them, i should NOT vote on such matters: this way i do not cast a vote to support something that my faith prohibits me to support, but neither do i intervene in the liberty and rights of my fellow human beings to choose their own course of action”… you just don’t SEE THAT kind of behavior too often, do you?…
i’m basically saying that otherwise well-meaning, kind and actually (often) highly intelligent people vote into LAW things that go against EVERYTHING the modern society is based on – EVERYTHING that, in fact, allows for peace and prosperity and intellectual and information boom, freedom of the arts and expression – EVERYTHING. based on what? on something that PRIVATELY THEIR held belief tells them is something that “shall be done” or “shall not be done”…
so they, while in fact reaping the fruits of, well, atheist advancements for the most part (let’s just face it: science, philosophy etc weren’t particularly theist just about at the same time as, well, most of the great stuff was invented in this world.. actually an older example was provided before by petr, who reminded me that in ancient arabia, all the while koran was regarded as a philosophical work open to liberal interpretation, it was an exuberant nation that gave us mathematics, was the center of world trade, arts and etc… then came another government, made koran literal and voila – you can see for yourself how far behind they lag now in science and so forth just in a couple of centuries, all that after being the leading region for progress… but i digress), while actually laying foundation for the destruction of the very mechanisms that allow all that to exist…
it’s a little bit like a huge MNC dumping poisons into the water and air… which THEIR CEO’s and workers THEMSELVES end up breathing and drinking, inevitably (another thing i can never wrap my mind around)…
just to sum it up: i in fact have NO problem with privately held beliefs in fairies. as i pointed out in a comment to jimmy (on my wall):
‘I wrote this before and I’ll repeat:
1. I have NO problem with anyone believing in toothfairies, santa, jesus, krishna or whatever the hell else they please… as long as that belief is PRIVATE, NOT indoctrinated onto children under 18, does NOT interfere with due process of law, and does NOT cause hateful, discriminative action or speech.
and 2. true, there are many great religious people out there. as there are many atheist assholes. and vice-versa. not the point. point is, for a good person to do good, it takes nothing. for an evil person to do evil, it also takes nothing. but for a good person to do evil, it takes religion…’ ”
I was rather irritated with him by that time, so I went on. I also made a point, note, on not caring what people privately believe… I think I’ve changed my mind. Believing in bullshit that makes one render one morally superior to anyone else and in having a key to the eternal guidance for the only acceptable way of living – should be lobotomized out of people for all I know… (Before you burn me on the stake: this is a metaphor, obviously. But if i had a magic wand and one wish in it, I’d rid the world of all religions – they won’t be erased, no – why. It’s cultural heritage, after all. But they’ll all safely migrate into the realm of “ancient myth” and “ancient philosophies” together with the myths of ancient Greece, and will be regarded and taught appropriately to their due place. Thus, I wrote to Jeff:
“so then yeah, then that enrages me, because why i if i get raped and get pregnant should bear a child from the rapist just because SOME church prohibits abortion? or why should i, were i gay, be unable to live in a loving union with my spouse with all the benefits of law as other married couples do? and then, yeah – in that case, i DO sympathize with that video rant because, well, if MY taxpayer dollars should go to spreading aids, denying people their rights, discrimination and so forth then no, i do NOT agree. and not humbly, either. you see, the whole reason for the fury is NOT a belief in itself, whatever it may be (as strange as it may seem). fine, some people believe in fairy-tales. okay. our brains are hard-wired for “magic”, so it’s easy to understand how THAT happens. BUT, what I AM against, and others like me, is the CONSEQUENCE OF ACTIONS taken by people of faiths.
if a person believes in allah and is a good person – awesome. we’d be friends. (we are – i have friends from all major religions in the world, as well as a few peculiar ones . and i mean real-life friends, nothing fb-related) if that person’s belief in allah makes him wrap a bomb around himself and blow a bunch of people up – i am NOT okay with THAT.
if christians think abortions and gay marriage and what name you are EVIL – i actually don’t give a fuck. if they go ahead VOTING for LAWS that prohibit gay marriage and the right of women to abortion – i DO have a problem. it’s NOT the faith it’s ACTIONS that are taken on its behalf.
because guess what? good people would either not vote at all, or vote FOR civil liberties. regardless of faith. but faith DOES push to the voting booth the morally righteous ones who DO vote AGAINST civil liberties.
don’t get me wrong, idiocy does the same – lack of education etc… rednecks would probably also vote against, but ask them why?.. GOD doesn’t like it. they may know nothing, and nothing of god. but they heard somewhere some time that “god doesn’t like it”. that’s enough of a reason for them..
ops, pardon this is running long, i better hush. i hope you see the point, and the fact that my frustration comes from not an attack on faith as such, but as a back-lash to what it happens to do in reality, tangibly. and it’s just in those cases of law TOO WRONG to not be infuriated by it – you’d probably also agree, i hope, that gay marriage and abortion rights should not even be debated in a civil society any more – it should long ago have become a norm, like in many european countries.”
Here comes Jeff’s infamous response about American non-secularism…:
“your rant is full of hypocrisies…and it is the idle mind of an over exuberant and inexperienced teen.
you want to be able to rant publicly against religion…but for a religious person to publicly espouse their beliefs should not be allowed because of all the crimes you feel have been committed in the name of religion. but you only see your view.
for example..i have not tried to sway you to any religious view or political view. you have no idea what my views are.
but here you rant and try to ask me to see your point of view and accept it.
You presume to know what is in peoples hearts which is astoundingly arrogant while holding yourself up as an accepting pinnacle of open minded virtue while at the same time mocking peoples beliefs.
Who the hell do you think you are to tell a group of people how to raise their children?? you call it indoctination, where they call it a moral upbringing. freedom means they can do just that….they can teach their children to love or to hate or to worship allah, jehovah, adonai, budha, satan wicca, or whathaveyou…
freedom of religion…
I live in a country where many people left everything they knew to establish a place of freedom and to be able to practice their religion (or lack thereof) freely and publicly and to establish that country so that no one else would be oppressed like they had been. and to this day, people leave the oppression of secular governments and oppressive religions to freely practice their faith (or lack of) in the USA.
and for your information…this country was not founded as a secular nation…do your homework…the founders were very religious…and open minded…read their writings and you can see that…”that we are endowed by our creator with certain inalienable rights” is not a secular statement. It was an endeavor of true moralilty born of their religious beliefs.
and in a civil society…a free society…we do not squelch public debate
the only point of yours i have seen is that you are very proud of what you think you know.
Your ignorance astounds me.”
So I wrote him back:
“our ignorance astounds me even more. claiming that USA was not founded as a secular nation?… which planet are YOU from?…
that aside… i don’t claim to KNOW every single person’s inner motives. and guess what – i am aware they think they’re doing the RIGHT thing. i’m sure you’re also aware that many roads to hell are paved with the greatest and best-est of intentions…
children should not be indoctrinated into faith by the means of imposing fear onto them (you will otherwise burn in hell for eternity…all your friends and family members who don’t behave well will also be tortured in hell for eternity… if you or them don’t do what the religious authorities tell. it’s actually very close to child abuse when you say that to kids at early age. if you dare refute that, i suggest you to go take a few years’ worth of psychology – might help). yes, we grow in a culture and cultures have values and shared beliefs. these beliefs CAN be passed on to the other generations, but in a non-violent form. in a non-coercive form. rather as information and common rituals than fear and dogma. if you can’t see the possibility to pass on cultural values without the complete brainwashing part – it’s your ignorance, not mine.
aside on practicing whatever religions they wish – yes. and, as you are so clearly unable to grasp, it’s fine (by me, too). (btw THAT is exactly THE definition of a secular nation – where ANY religion, or none, are just as equally permitted to be practiced as any other – DUH… you seriously amaze me on this point… on top of that, founding fathers could have whatever privately held beliefs of their own – however, they were smart enough to understand that singling one or other religion as the state one is a route to disaster. and consequently america was founded as a SECULAR nation under the principles of the rule of LAW, not GOD, and strict separation of state and church (which is now a bit less strict, sadly). so do YOUR homework.) however, that license to practice, just like sex, was granted to consenting adults capable of making their own choices and passing their own judgments, and thus it should be. children can grow up with values of any religion, too, but it shouldn’t be shoveled down their throats and neither should they learn under threat, which is the case now. they also should be given answers to their questions about other religions and values, and not told to “shut up and stop questioning” (that alone is probably the most dangerous habit people get into, in general, belief or not, that drives most of social calamities in the world – when people shut up and stop questioning anything and thinking for themselves. governments LOOOVE that though… sheeple are easier to control).”
At this point out of sheer curiosity I sent Jeff quickly found links on secularism and inception of American state. He replied:
“crushed by lintellect? more like baffled or buried under bullshit. your enormous ego still misses the point as indicated when you can say things like who should be allowed to practice their religion and when:
“children should not be indoctrinated into faith ”
freedom of religion means its none of your business
BTW, did you even read your links or just the parts you liked?
God and the Constituion:
Blessing is defined as a favor or gift bestowed by God.
Close enough for me.
I have not once preached that you should believe any faith. Your “research” means nothing to me because your statements continue to show a lack of respect for other peoples beliefs.”
By the way, when I agreed with him previously that the video is “of a ranting teenager”, which, however, does not invalidate the points made by her at all, he actually somehow managed to understand that I AM a teenager who likes to rant… (This will explain part of my reply to him):
“people who are religious aren’t stupid. they hold no inherent personality traits that are common to them all. and some highly intelligent people also are believers. please be so kind and stop putting words into my mouth and thoughts/judgments into my head that aren’t there.
people who are religious ARE much more inclined to not question. to not question authority. and to base their ACTIONS on those moral absolutes they regard as holy. even if those actions happen to go against the advancements of the civil society in the realm of civil liberties and human rights. there is an inherent moral self-righteousness in any set of faith, whatever it is. unfortunately, this is exactly what leads to such bullshit as the fact that gay marriages are STILL not legalized everywhere in the world, as should have been already done long ago; abortions are illegal, sex education is “abstinence education” (which is NOT education. and it happens to throw USA up top among the developed world in the rates of increase of teen pregnancy and STDs. way to fucking go, USA…).
unlike YOU, i actually read. and those links were just a quick fix for your sake of your immense gap in information on USA secularism. also, unlike YOU, i actually READ the ENTIRE fucking constitution of the USA. there is NO god in it. never has been. you simply once again prove your (lack of) proper methodology by “glancing” over things, giving them a cursory read and proclaiming yourself an expert.
oh and please don’t give yourself so much credit – i don’t care what you think. as long as your actions and votes follow the course of a civil society, not of fairies or “moral lessons” they bestow onto people – i don’t care what you or anyone thinks.
to ranting teen – wow, you only now realized that sentence was about the video?… A+ to you my friend on reading and comprehension. same goes for your assessment of the blog entry (which you have NOT read, and i can bet my life on it. yet again, amazing sight of insight on your behalf, because had you bothered – you’d probably withhold your retarded (yes, it is such) comment on the entry’s behalf. or maybe not, as you seem to be unable to properly read and understand something written in your own mother tongue just very well enough…) which is why my original proposition to bring this entirely meaningless (for the reasons that have to do with your laziness, if anything, whether it comes to doing your research, claim-refuting, or even reading something before forming your opinion of it… i mean, wow… you vote like that too? by skimming campaign headlines and leaving it at that?… then damn, god bless america indeed – cuz he won’t, for the reason of non-existence, and it doesn’t deserve any better…) exchange to an end still holds.
(a couple more of such “insights” of yours and you’d prove yourself either basically a major troll, or someone peculiarly hell-bent, for whatever exotic reason, on fully discrediting himself as a discussion partner worthy of any regard whatsoever from anyone who’d ever wish to ever talk to you about anything…hmmm… maybe wisest to just, really, stop writing. or start acting a bit different, if you’re capable of it)”
Now, we’re almost at the very culmination and end of this all, yay! Jeff’s reply:
“discussion partner? is that what you consider me? so i should be honored i guess…that a person of your dizzying intellect would stoop to discuss things with me? no…i’m not…sorry. if you are capable of having an open mind…then step out of your ego and re-read your posts…egotistical, elitist and judgemental are the first words that come to mind. I still have no idea why you are persisting in this line. You only accept definitions that you agree with, disgard facts when they don’t fit your perspective and then insult the person who presents them. You seem intent on trying to beat me up. For what reason, I don’t know.
I’m sure there are people like you who work just as hard to impress themselves and congratulate themselves on the storehouse of information they have. Unfortunately, like you they can’t comprehend what it is they know or show respect for others who have differing beliefs.
I took issue with your lack of respect for other peoples beliefs and misuse of words. You worked very hard here to justify your elitist attitude and I applaud your ability to type, but so far have failed to sway me to your justifications or way of thinking. Bye”
>THIS IS WHERE YOU SHOULD PICK UP READING IF YOU DECIDED TO SKIP ME VS JEFF PART 🙂 (although it was rather informative of the development of the declaration of war…)<
And this is kind of where my “respect” thing started to crack down… In my own words, my sentiments were the following:
“i only accept definitions that have at least SOME vesting in reality and have been accepted as THE definition by that stupid and insignificant to you little person… no, not me – THE REST of the WORLD. just to get that one out of the way. (and you still haven’t read that blog post, as i can see… just an observation – nothing else)
nobody asks you to FEEL anything here (or else, please quote me directly ordering you to feel something, including “honored”)
what you read into how i “sound” in my comments is projecting – of your own little personality flaws onto another person. it’s okay, we all fall into that trap every now and then… in case you are truly interested in how i sound – it’s intense, it’s mocking, and it’s sarcastic – but not for elitist or other reasons that YOU see as fit in the situation. it is actually because i normally discuss things with people who know me personally – and they happen to also know the jokes, the sarcasm and the true tone of whatever i’m writing. that you don’t know it doesn’t mean my tone is all of a sudden different – you simply have never interacted with me in person (btw that blog entry could help shed some light into this all… including “my way of thinking”, which you keep so grossly misinterpreting, to our mutual consequent dissatisfaction… also, for you as someone unacquainted with me personally maybe you’d need to read the “i am always right” entry as well that’s linked in the very end of the “crushed by intellect” one…), and so you (consistently) read much more into my writing that has ever been there to ever begin with.
as for respect – you are asking me to respect intolerance, bigotry, lies and elitism that you yourself accuse me of… how exactly does that demand add up in your head?…
i will NOT respect certain things, just like i will NOT tolerate certain things. would YOU respect and tolerate a murder of an innocent person outside of an armed conflict/due prosecution through the process of law? i don’t know about you – i would not.
i would equally not respect or tolerate people who play experts on things they know shit about, people who discriminate, who vote for laws that limit civil liberties and scientific advancement, lie, murder, rob and teach to never question authority. and i don’t care how much you or anyone else will demand, coerce or entice me into respecting or tolerating any of the above – it just ain’t gonna happen. so am i then disrespectful and intolerant? hell yeah – i am. to willful (underline that) ignorance, to hate, discrimination and downright crime – yes, i neither will respect nor tolerate those.”
Hence comes the war. I thereby no longer will be respectful of faith of ANY sorts that carries any the following characteristics (and here’s why):
1. Includes a belief in all-powerful deity and afterlife that is determined by one’s conduct.
(Because it offsets the rewards/punishments to “later”; because one’s way to heaven or a prosperous next life after committing genocide can still be paved by some retarded rituals – like prayer, repentance, etc; because it induces blind obedience to authority and places that authority into the hands of a toothfairy, making believers think that their toothfairy is a better guide of behavior than THE LAW; and for a shitload of other reasons – see linked material in the end. Also, because SCARING little children with prospect of eternal torture (or a future life as a bug) as punishment for ‘misconduct’ that awaits them and everyone they love shall such misconduct happen is TERRORISM. It is psychological torture and should be made explicitly illegal. If you don’t think religion IS terrorism – there are some people who can explain the idea to you, like this funny guy:
2. Has ANYWHERE in its scriptures and/or postulates ANY line of text that suggests that ANY justifications of ANY form of discrimination exists at all (example: “sodomy is bad”, “non-believers are doomed to hell”. Because anything discriminatory is a CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY – as defined by me and the rest of the sane world. Because it infringes on human rights instead of advancing them).
3. Has ANYWHERE in its scriptures and/or postulates ANY line of text that suggests that ANY justifications of ANY conduct, whether VERBAL or ACTIONABLE, that constitutes a violation of ANY human rights, INCLUDING rights of children, women, sexual minorities, ethnic minorities, etc. (self-evident why)
4. Has ANYWHERE in its scriptures and/or postulates ANY line of text that suggests that ONLY THIS one particular set of scriptures/postulates grants the ABSOLUTE KNOWLEDGE AND UNDERSTANDING of ANYTHING AT ALL. Be it moral conduct, history of humankind, proper practices for the living, even a single fact of any sorts, or what name you. Includes claims that anyone who refuses to believe the specific scriptures/postulates is “too ignorant/stupid/limited to understand ‘THE GRAND TRUTH’ ” of their preferred invisible friend.
(Because NO ABSOLUTE KNOWLEDGE AGENT EXISTS ON THIS PLANET. Yes, even YOURS IS NOT SUCH, EITHER – FUCKING LIVE WITH IT. Human brain and ability to understand and perceive are EXTREMELY LIMITED, plus we have mechanisms built-in that make us see stuff that is not there – all the time. (If you don’t think so, try imagining how “eternity” actually looks like… or insides of a black hole… (good luck…) Or maybe you have a thorough understanding of, universe aside, at least EVERY single process going on on Earth? Or all intricacies of the human mind and how it works? Reality check: you fucking don’t – and can’t. EVER. No one does/can. Live with this, too). So if you for some reason think that YOUR brain and abilities are SO much better than those of the entire human race that YOU are actually capable of FULLY or (even partially, but somehow BETTER and more profoundly) grasping some ABSOLUTE, ‘divine’, eternal, all-encompassing concepts – go sign up for a psychiatric counselling with a case of severe narcissism, ego-mania, god-complex and a few accompanying delusions RIGHT NOW)
5. Lists a limited number of “rules” and distinguishes “proper” and “improper” behaviors that are claimed to maintain their validity FOREVER. (Because if that was a good rule of thumb, we’d still burn witches, hold slaves, rape ‘non-believers’ of all sorts and generally engage in some UNACCEPTABLE behaviors. Because the law, through its due process, is and must remain open to revision and adaptation to reality – while sacred law is NOT. That ALONE should scare anyone enough)
6. Has ANY form of eternal (or in fact ANY kind of punishment at all. This DOES include a favorite religious “you shall live your life in suffering and misery if thy disbelieve”) punishment outlined ANYWHERE that is reserved for those who refuse to believe in the specific scriptures/postulates EXCLUSIVELY due to their refusal to believe non-substantiated, unproven ANYTHING at all, including the given scriptures/postulates. (Because blind faith (and not LACK of thereof, as many theists claim) led to the rise of the Third Reich and the Holocaust (Hitler’s back, as I promised 🙂 ), to the Stalinist gulags and to North Korea’s mass hysteria (turns out they consider US aid to them to be an offering in honor of Kim Jin Il…) poverty and other issues. Also, because NO divine being can possibly exist that would ever need to COERCE and threaten anyone into believing in it. If such even existed, it’d be a LOUSY one unworthy of any respect at all).
IN SUMMARY: If you, as a person, happen to privately believe that you have some SPECIAL, UNIQUE, THOROUGH and UNDENIABLY CORRECT (without any need of proving WHY so) knowledge/understanding of ANYTHING AT ALL, be it origins and purpose of existence, proper way of living and conduct or what not, or especially ANYTHING as of yet unexplained by scientific method, and you thus regard your knowledge/understanding as SUPERIOR and more profound/accurate/correct than any knowledge/understanding of ANYONE ELSE, then GROW THE FUCK UP, face the fact that you are NOT special, and that just because you like some work of literature or some philosophy over all others does NOT make you an EXPERT on ANYTHING RELEVANT TO THE ACTUAL REALITIES OF THE WORLD YOU’RE LIVING IN. Just the same as, having slept through the “physics” class at your school, you should, upon graduation, have enough wits to realize that you are probably NOT a fucking expert in quantum mechanics and not position yourself as such. Note, also, that not a single expert on ANYTHING in this world will be nuts enough to ever claim ABSOLUTE and ETERNALLY SUFFICIENT knowledge/understanding of ANYTHING. EVER. Maybe there’s a reason for it? (hint: yes, there IS)
Now, having made that clear and having officially declared war on blind self-righteous faith of any sorts, and specifically and very strongly on the organized religion – ANY organized religion anywhere on the planet – here are the promised few sources that sum up why it must be, indeed, an open war and why tolerance is overrated and should give way to better, more assertive tactics (such as kicking “creationism” not just out of the classrooms, but out of the public sphere debate – it’s too much fucking honor to grant them; scraping discriminatory laws that originated in some theist moral; introducing mandatory critical course on world religions in cultural context in all schools and STOP GIVING CHURCHES TAX BREAKS; denial of tolerance, respectful discourse and other permissive bullshit towards all this dangerous nonsense):
1) A little example of what tolerance causes – case study: USA. In focus: history, secular origins and frightening changes in legislation that we should all be afraid of. USA is a world dominant culture – if something happens there, it DOES set precedent. Let’s make sure it’s an adverse precedent – such we do NOT follow. (A glimpse into American historic journey from secular origins to creeping Christian agenda-run state. Roughly 55 minutes long. Originally it was available fully available on YouTube but the user was removed… You can listen to the audio file in full here: “Consider the Atheist” Madalyn Murray O’Hair)
2) Speech by Sam Harris (selected for being a very good summary of the general ideas and concerns shared by most non-theists) on why belief is a dangerous thing in itself (part one of five linked. Watch the entire speech)
3) TED talk by Sam Harris (yes, again. And again for being a very sound summary of the general point, rather than ‘the only one’) on how science can much better inform us of a proper moral conduct than any belief can ever dream of, as well as other relevant points and dangers of resorting to faith.
4) (not obligatory, but recommended): If you are still concerned about ‘losing the magic’ or whatever not else, Richard Dawkins has a book which you can actually listen to right here on The Magic of Reality. That should in roughly 6 hours clear all remaining doubts :).
We can get rid of mass faith AND maintain the cultural diversity. Just the same as we can shelf Greek gods under ‘myths’ and still study them and derive value from that study. We can observe the rituals of our culture and rejoice in them – not because they are sacred, but because they carry cultural value. We can teach children about ALL world religions, explain to them why we personally adhere to any specific view, and allow them to decide for themselves what to believe (note; even MENTIONING things like “hell” or “punishment”, or any other threats for their not believing what YOU do as a parent is prohibited) when they are old enough to make that decision for themselves. Treating ANY set of rules as infallible dogma is idiotic at its best – circumstances change, so do rules, live with it. Cherry-picking nice little segments to go by, just as picking inspiring quotes is fine. Regarding ANY single source as the ONLY and BEST source of ANY type of information is insane. Especially if that information is based on “presumption of MAGIC”.
If you disagree with this post, find it ‘offensive’, or ‘intolerant’, or you want to suggest me to ‘chill off’ – then please first spend a couple of hours of your Farmville time on exploring the provided links. If you STILL think my declaration is unjustified – then fuck you. Remind me to stop talking to you – I no longer want bystander hypocrites around me who are okay with tolerating human rights abuse, wherever it comes from, and those who sheepishly invoke ‘respect’ towards practices that clearly have NOTHING to do with respect for anyone themselves (stoning? genital mutilation? denial of rights? are you fucking KIDDING me you are OKAY with that???!!!), simply because a group of people, however large and for however long, regarded such practices are okay by their standard. No they aren’t – violation of human right is violation of human rights. Period. Any cultural norms/practices that go against the most basic human rights are dated medieval barbarism and must be prohibited. Stop lying to yourselves and hiding behind ‘cultural relativism’ schism, because by your same twisted fucking tolerant logic Nazism is perfectly fine. So is communism, any form of dictatorships, torture, discrimination and other things you tolerate (though I bet don’t like when they are applied upon you, do you now?).
We have too much to lose if we sit down and stop the fight. It can happen too fast. And it requires a full-on war. Those beliefs in fairies cause attitudes of moral self-righteousness and self-justification beyond any analysis of the grounds for such (which by the way do not exist), superiority, and conduct of despicable nature that can bring down and destroy all advancements humanity has reached via secular progress vested in the scientific method in the past millennia. This is no longer a joke, an empty threat, or something tolerable. Unless we re-shape our world on the basics of humanitarianism instead of blind belief, we’re doomed big time. I don’t know about you, but I refuse to passively sit there and, like a bystander allowing someone to get murdered, raped or tortured, allow for belief in fairies turn this world upside-down and rid me of liberties and future as such.
DISCLAIMER: As a person, you ARE fully entitled to privately hold ANY belief you find suitable to your liking – I have said before and I will repeat that I have no problem with that. HOWEVER, you are ONLY entitled to your beliefs under the following conditions (and those allow for NO exceptions):
1. You realize that your belief constitutes your own private opinion and choice, just as beliefs of other people constitute their own private opinion and choice, AND you thus realize that YOUR selected belief is NOT in ANY way BETTER, MORE CORRECT, PROFOUND, VALID OR SUITABLE FOR MORAL GUIDANCE OF CONDUCT AND BEHAVIOR THAN ANY OTHER. In other words, you fully realize that you are NOT in a possession of some ABSOLUTE and ULTIMATE understanding/knowledge and neither is anyone else (or any GROUP, for that matter, however big or long-lasting – numbers or persistence of a delusion do NOT justify bullshit! Back in them days nearly everyone was certain for a very long number of generations that Earth was flat – a shitload in numbers for a shitload of time… were they right though?..).
2. Whatever you may believe to be “right” or “wrong” according to your preferred dogma does NOT permit you to get involved in a political process on its basis. You are entitled to your belief ONLY if your political and civil actions are taken from a strictly HUMANITARIAN point of view – the position of rule of law and human rights. This means if you ever vote for/support (or did so in the past) ANY law or practice that denies basic rights to a SINGLE human being – you’re a fucking hypocrite, you should stop doing so immediately and MUST get involved in 3 different human rights legislative lobbying campaigns (suggestions: gay marriage, abortions, proper science classes in schools, scraping off the clause that allows indefinite detention of persons SUSPECTED of terrorism (because DUH, this is just a modern version of WITCH HUNTS, don’t you get it?) – good list for starters) to cleanse your sins. You MUST then remain an activist for those causes until the respective laws are finally passed in your state/country. Then and only then you can consider yourself forgiven – meaning that quietly sitting on your ass/knees and praying, or meditating, or confessing to an old senile man in a booth DO NOT fucking count. ACTIVE involvement does.
3. You are entitled and allowed to TOLERATE and RESPECT ONLY the type of beliefs (tied with the proper use and understanding of thereof) as described in this disclaimer. You must from now on either dump your false tolerance for all the rest of the harmful bullshit forever and become someone actively spreading the message of WHY this war I had declared (together with other non-theists) is urgent and should be supported en-mass, or join the camp of such admirable figures as Hitler (yet again 🙂 ), Stalin, Mao, Saddam (the list goes on… and YES if you do nothing – you ARE one of them). If you find yourself disagreeing with this point, if your “political correctness’ and “respect for cultural diversity” nonsense still blind your vision – you are just once again a hypocrite allowing for evil, inhumane action in this world.
To finish up: if after reading (and fully understanding) the main part of this post, including the provided links (be happy I didn’t ask you to check ALL the links in “On matters of belief 😉 ), as well as carefully reading and fully understanding the disclaimer, you STILL find yourself offended, find me overreacting/too “aggressive”, or secretly tick me off on your “going to hell/going to get reborn as a bug” list – inform me please and we shall part ways in life. Consider it a winter cleaning of the closet. Just as I will no longer tolerate evil, I will no longer tolerate people around me who allow evil to happen. YOUR bystander attitude puts ME in danger of facing the consequences of potential LAWS all over the world that can get ME killed for wearing some piece of clothes somebody doesn’t like. Well fuck you if you are fine with something like that – for I am not.
End of the declaration of the war on global terrorism.